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От	Аква
К	RUSSIA
Дата	26.12.2003 22:44:20
Рубрики	Современность;

:-)

To my mind it is not so.
If an information can have more details about a sub damage - it ll be actual. I remember a discoursion about "what happiness with the sub" in this Russian forum.
And AU is a Russian speaking man - for the tanks sitters :)

Kiss you gently......Aqua :)

От	RUSSIA
К	Аква (26.12.2003 22:44:20)
Дата	27.12.2003 07:43:15

Re: :-)

Where did u learn your English anyways ? Kiss Gently wtf is that ?

От	ЛАА
К	RUSSIA (27.12.2003 07:43:15)
Дата	31.12.2003 11:14:03

хм...

> Where did u learn your English anyways ? Kiss Gently wtf is that ?

Забавно, а Вы где учили русский? Kiss you gently == нежно целую. А вот за wtf можно и в репку схлопотать...

От	RUSSIA
К	Аква (26.12.2003 22:44:20)
Дата	27.12.2003 07:41:15

= ) AKBA

Not so to your mind ... it is for mine. Most of the people in this forum have no respect for the Americans ... well maybe they do , but with what the Americans do and how they treat Russians i wouldnt want to read any stories or articles about them . You probably dont really know anything about so lets keep it quite simple .

От	ЛАА
К	RUSSIA (27.12.2003 07:41:15)
Дата	31.12.2003 11:07:25

пардон муа!

Dear, please keep up your own side and don’t speak for others. I do not think the sound nickname you have chosen gives you enough rights to do so.

Following strictly the wrong course of your counterparts is a bad idea: you make almost no difference at all.

Moreover, if you hate so badly these Americans, you SHOULD know the news: the heavier you hate - the better you should. The only case you are free is if you keep your head in sand like an ostrich. So your misrespect is of this origin.

I think on my own, that since 12th August 2000 any news of NATO nuclear submarine unilateral accidents are of great importance.

От	PITON
К	ЛАА (31.12.2003 11:07:25)
Дата	07.01.2004 22:08:36

Re: пардон муа!

I think on my own, that since 12th August 2000 any news of NATO nuclear submarine unilateral accidents are of great importance.

I AGREE 100%. I THINK, THAT YOU WILL FIND THE INFORMATION ON USS “HARTFORD” PROVIDED BELOW INTERESTING.
SINCERELY,
PITON.

> USS Hartford Damage is Severe
> It seems more and more info is coming out about this. Sad story to read.
> MMCM(SS) Greg Peterman USN Retired
> Damage to the Groton-based submarine USS Hartford after a grounding off
> the coast of Italy in October is greater than initially believed, with
> most of the bottom half of the rudder torn off and gouges in the hull
> deep enough to raise concerns about its structural integrity, according
> to Navy sources.
> The sources also said the damage occurred when the Hartford was
> conducting training drills in the channel as it departed La Maddalena
> and wandered outside the channel when the navigation team went too long
> without updating the ship's chart position. The submarine's Global
> Positioning System was working, and the Hartford navigation team could
> have easily determined how far out of the channel it was by using that
> method, the sources said.
> Official Navy spokesmen declined to comment on any of the sources'
> claims.
> Lt. Cmdr. Robert S. Mehal, a spokesman for the Atlantic submarine force,
> said engineers and shipyard workers are still assessing the damage to
> the Hartford, which arrived Tuesday at Norfolk (Va.) Naval Shipyard,
> where it will be put into drydock.
> The Navy said earlier this week it could be several weeks before the
> damage assessment is completed.
> Pictures of the hull damage, made by divers off the tender USS Emory S.
> Land in Italy, show extensive damage to the rudder, particularly the
> part that projects under the boat, say sources familiar with the photos.
> The hull is so scarred that the Navy imposed strict operating limits on
> the Hartford.
> The sources said the ship had to make the entire trip at less than 200
> feet below the surface. Normally, Los Angeles-class submarines such as
> the Hartford can operate at depths greater than 800 feet. The Navy also
> set speed restrictions on its crossing, which was the reason the
> Hartford took almost a month to make what would normally be a two-week
> journey.
> The sources said the Hartford was conducting man-overboard drills at the
> time of the accident, operating at speeds between 12 and 15 knots. Cmdr.
> Cate Meuller, a spokeswoman for the Navy's Sixth Fleet in Gaeta, Italy,
> would not confirm those claims.
> She also declined to comment on whether there are any speed restrictions
> in the channel or whether submarines are free to conduct training drills
> during their transit.
> â?oThat would be something that would be dealt with specifically
> in the investigation,â? Meuller said. â?oUntil that has
> been completed, we can't comment on any of these issues.â?
> The accident happened Oct. 25, less than a month into what was to have
> been a six-month deployment to the Mediterranean, and only four months
> after the skipper had assumed command.
> The Hartford was departing the submarine port at La Maddalena when it
> ran aground briefly in the channel outside the national park east of
> Caprera. It returned to port under its own power. There, divers
> discovered the damage to the rudder and scrapes on the hull.
> The Navy has said the accident did not damage the ship's reactor or its
> weapons, and the watertight integrity of the hull was never compromised.
> Initial Navy announcements indicated that the damage was not severe.
> The commodore of Submarine Squadron 22 in La Maddalena, Capt. Greg
> Parker, who was on board the Hartford to act as the harbor pilot, and
> the ship's captain, Cmdr. Christopher R. Van Metre, were both relieved
> of command Nov. 9.
> Six crewmen who were part of the navigation party received various
> punishments for dereliction of duty.
> The Navy sources said the navigation team was punished because it had
> not updated the ship's position on the charts frequently enough to
> guarantee the Hartford stayed in safe waters.
> In general, the water in that area is deep enough to support the kind of
> operations the Hartford was conducting â?" except for one small area
> where the Hartford grounded.
> Mueller said the navigational questions are key to the investigation,
> but added that she could not comment on any of the claims.
> Cmdr. William C. Stacia Jr. has assumed command of the Hartford. Stacia
> is the former skipper of the USS Cheyenne in Pearl Harbor and most
> recently was the deputy commander of Submarine Squadron 4 in Groton.
> Stacia has been selected for promotion to captain, and would normally be
> too senior to be considered for a submarine command, but the Navy wanted
> an experienced, senior officer at the helm of the crippled ship.
> A Navy spokesman said he does not expect that Stacia will remain in
> command for an extended period, though it could be weeks or months
> before his replacement is identified.